Hydrotech vs Jupiter Ionizers
Question: I noted several UK websites that promoted 'Hydrotech' ionizers and rubbished Jupiter Models. What are your comments?
Answer: Tell me something, who else is promoting these Hydrotech units?
How long has the manufacturer been in the business of providing water ionizers?
Since the 70's many manufacturers of water ionizers have come and gone, Jupiter Science/Royal Water are one of the few that have remained through the rough and tumble of business cycles and changing consumer fashions.
Water ionization is not a trivial technology that anyone can jump into, and if a new firm claims to produce superior units to the established industry leaders, then I'd be a bit suspicious.
Salesmen can and do say anything to sell their products.
Question: The website claims that:
"The HydroTech displays the output pH so the customer is never fooled, and after perhaps 8 years we can refurbish the cell."
The idea about being able to 'Refurbish' the electrolysis chamber is a marketing gimick.
Royal Water/Jupiter Science electrolysis chambers are considered to be the best in the industry, and should last a life time. They are guaranteed to last 20 years.
They do not require refurbishing. They are made from solid titanium and plated with platinum - two of the most durable substances known. The ionization chamber in your Melody and the Microlite are the most durable part of the units.
The only thing that can happen is that if you run with low water pressure, and have a high mineral water content then they could get deposits building up. But this is easily removed by:
1. Running the unit on 'Acid' for several mins.
2. Adding vinegar to the unit via the spout, stir/mix the unit, then pouring out.
I'd suggest that you do this regularly if you're getting a low pH. Also, replace your filter regularly and don't run it with low water pressure for prolonged periods.
The bio-stone filter is state of the art. It will not only filter the water, but will also mildly alkalize the water (because of the Coral calcium), and help reduce the clustering (because of the Tourmaline ceramic).
The Melody and Microlite units are the replacements for the Masterpiece and Malvelo units. The Masterpiece is 14 years old, and there are still people that use it in the UK, and ask us for replacement filters. That unit did not have the 'auto-cleanse' functions, nor the bio-stone filter that comes with the Melody and the Microlite.
If I were in the market for a good water ionizer, I'd consider:
- 1. The History of the Manufacturer and Service Record
- 2. How many units are in use and overall comments
- 3. The Quality of the Filter
- 4. The Quality of the Ionization Chamber
- 5. The ORP and other measurements
Being able to refurbish the chamber (which doesn't need replacing) doesn't come into it. Neither does the onboard ORP and pH measurements - it is not scientifically possible to measure pH or ORP accurately with running water.
I dispute what the website is saying about Jupiter Ionizer owners being unhappy, very few Jupiter owners are unhappy with their Ionizers. We do not have a single person that is unhappy with their purchase.
However, the deposit build up is an issue, particularly in some areas of the UK where he have chalky soil, and a high mineral content in the water. This has always been the case since water ionizers were invented in the 50's, and consumer units marketed in the 60's and 70's.
Royal Water/Jupiter Science have been working on these and other improvements over the years.
If you look at the ionizers that have been marketed over the years since the 70's, you will see that the ease of 'Cleansing' has been an important feature in the newer models.
We contacted Royal Water/Jupiter Science for their comments on the the false advertising, and this was the response from Royal Water Engineers:
Next, regarding their "70+ levels of ionization". We aren't sure what their adjustments are, but the pH can also be controlled with our Melody, for example, by varying the water pressure, thus giving an almost infinite number of variations in pH.
As for the maximum and typical flow rate for these ionizers, the flow rate for the Melody is sufficient to fill cups and other vessels very quickly. Is it really necessary to blast the water out so fast?
Regarding their "dense" platinum coating, where is this verified as opposed to ours in which they are insinuating ours is a thinner plating? The plating on ours is 0.2 microns thick. We would need verification from them on their plating.
The surface area is misrepresented in this chart as well. The JP104 has 3 double sided plates at 682 square centimeters on each side and 2 single sided plates at 682 square centimeters per plate. This gives a total surface area of 5,456 square centimeters.
Our filter usage is 6,000 not 4,000.
Our electrode life expectancy is 20 years.
Regarding the pH and ORP display. First of all, ORP is highly variable and is measured in still water with very expensive ORP meters and calculated with temperature and TDS variables. ORP cannot be accurately displayed. pH is also done in still water and claiming to have a pH meter is a parlour trick to sell machines.
Also, the Melody does have a new 3 color LCD backlit display, so this is false as well.
We hope we have explained this sufficiently.....
